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28 November 2006 @ 10:13 pm
Post-House Post Party!  
Come one, come all, share your Housey thoughts! On this ep or the last few - it's been a while, so come chat! Umm, I'm tired, so I have nothing more intelligent to say. Maybe tomorrow I'll be able to formulate a coherent reaction. Night all.
 
 
How do I feel?: tiredtired
 
 
 
Zekkass: Clipboardzekkass on November 29th, 2006 06:22 am (UTC)
I haven't seen it yet, but I've seen the thirty pieces of silver quote bandied around, (I've avoided spoilers, though.) so for those who don't know the reference, the thirty pieces of silver refers to the price Judas was paid by the Jewish Authorities to betray Jesus to them.

Er, I'll cease the Bible geekery now. ^_^;;
Sky: [house] house neckskyblue_reverie on November 29th, 2006 04:45 pm (UTC)
Hee, thanks, m'dear. Hope you get to see it soon!
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Sky: [house] wilson initialsskyblue_reverie on November 29th, 2006 04:59 pm (UTC)
Yay for brain explodey! :D Love the post. As for the ep, I still haven't completely figured out how I feel - there were parts I liked - a favorite was Wilson's incredulous "Seriously?" when Cuddy said that House had never done anything mean to her before - but of course the ending was very upsetting. And dear lord, I hope this is the end of the "Cuddy wants to be a mommy" plot because you're right - she shouldn't be a mommy, as she still put the hospital above the health of the girl. Plus, baby plots are the kiss of death to good shows. :(

Will respond to big post once you post it here. :)
Jestana: House: House/Wilsonjestana on November 29th, 2006 07:25 am (UTC)
I started watching the show with this story arc. *grin* Anyway, I knew it would be Wilson, I just wasn't sure what would prompt Wilson to "betray" House. *whimpers* I was so ready to smack House for that comment about Cuddy not being a good mother. *growl* Then punching Chase! *hisses* That's why Wilson goes to Tritter. He's seeing what the investigation is doing to House and how it's affecting everyone nearby. He "betrays" House because not doing so will drag the investigation out and put more people in danger.

Tritter's trying to 'help' House get past the addiction, so he's not high when he's treating patients, but the addiction is how House can do his job. House isn't high when he takes the Vicodin. He's 'normal'. He can function and be less of a jerk, relatively speaking. Thank goodness Chase figured it out. The little girl almost did give an arm and leg for Tritter's vendetta against House.

Done rambling. I'm not sure if I really like this arc, but it's certainly been interesting watching the reactions of the hardcore fans (I'm not there yet, but I may be).
Skyskyblue_reverie on November 29th, 2006 05:02 pm (UTC)
Ah, a new fan! Are you going to go back and watch the backstory? I'd recommend it - seasons 1 and 2 were fantastic.

Chase figuring it out was a brand new one! That was certainly interesting. And it's what finally made House realize that he has a problem, I think - the look on his face after he punched Chase and really listened to what he was saying was incredible. HL is such a great actor.
Jestana: House: House/Wilsonjestana on November 29th, 2006 06:35 pm (UTC)
*giggle* I might, I don't know.

Yeah, the look on House's face after he punched Chase was just heartbreaking. *wants to hug him* I hope he takes the deal in the next ep and doesn't feel too betrayed by Wilson.
Furiusfurius on November 29th, 2006 08:16 am (UTC)
some worthless opinions..
I've only ever watched two episodes of House but I've read the fanfics... One is from last week, one from a month ago....I think House's unsubtle misanthropy was extremely irritating last week. On the other hand, I don't believe such thing as judicial system exists in the House universe..
Sky: [hugh] hugh eyesskyblue_reverie on November 29th, 2006 05:05 pm (UTC)
Re: some worthless opinions..
The writers have really been playing up his jerkishness this season to make the point that his drug use, and hence his life, is out of control. Whether that's realistic, or a good writing choice, I question, but that's probably why you're so irritated. In previous seasons, he was a jerk, but not that much of a jerk. You could always kind of see the other side of him underneath, especially with Wilson. His behavior to Wilson recently has been really awful.

What's funny is that David Shore is/was a lawyer, so he really should know about the legal system and the justice system, but apparently doesn't care about realism in that area at all. Ah well.
ennui_blue_lite: msliz4857 HL teadyennui_blue_lite on November 29th, 2006 07:33 pm (UTC)
Hello all!
I liked it. It wasn't the *greatest*, but it was good. The little girl was cute without being annoyingly cute, which was nice. And, despite having heard of the final diagnosis, I didn't guess it. And I *LOVED* that Chase was the one to get it instead of House.

House was some sort of uber-jerk this week. Usually his comments are just his means for getting his way. Not tonight - he was out to draw blood tonight. Certainly I can see that he's on a downward spiral right now, and I'm waiting for him to hit bottom.

The last scene... I totally understand why Wilson did it. I agree that after what he said to Cuddy, and *punching Chase in the face*, he needed to be stopped. But I wish that Tritter hadn't been given the satisfaction.

Can't wait to see where they go with this!
Sky: [house] h-w ampersandskyblue_reverie on November 29th, 2006 08:43 pm (UTC)
Hello! I just got back from the DMV and haven't headed into work yet, so I'm stealing a moment to respond. :)

I agree the POTW plot was pretty good - nothing outstanding, and the girl was certainly no Andy (Andie? Andi?) from Autopsy, but she was still cute and overall it was an interesting medical mystery.

On the Tritter arc: yeah, House was uber-jerk, but still funny, as usual. I hope he hits bottom soon because I'm getting tired of this arc. It was interesting, but okay, enough now. And I'm kind of nervous, because House without his Vicodin addiction is... well, not as interesting. Like early this season without the cane - it's just WRONG. So I hope they get through this arc without changing his character too much.

The last scene... I'm still upset. I understand that Wilson finally got that House was out of control, but I DON'T think that going to Tritter was the way to solve the problem. I'm hoping that it's part of some scheme that House and Wilson cooked up to get Tritter off their backs. Because otherwise, I'm going to be upset.

And as I said to you earlier, I hope to GOD that this makes Cuddy realize that she's not cut out to be a mom, at least not right now. Because baby plots are the kiss of DEATH.
ennui_blue_lite: msliz4857 HL teadyennui_blue_lite on November 30th, 2006 01:34 am (UTC)
No, I agree. There had to be an alternative to turning him in to Tritter. I really wish that Wilson had taken some time to find it. BTW, am I the only one who found Wilson's "30 peices of silver" line to be eye-rollingly melodramatic? Um, House isn't Jesus, Wilson.

You worried about caneless House before, and it was a disaster. I'm trusting your instinct this go-round and saying that House - Vicodin = BAD. Still... I really, really want to see him go toe to toe with a therapist. It could come out either way.

"It's never Lupus." Hee!

Yeah, Cuddy as a mom... I'm not sure that we need that right now. Although, when you think about it, we see Cuddy maybe an average of six minutes an episode - her baby would get way less screentime than that. I don't think it would be the kiss of death for House the way it's the kiss of death for most shows.

If she had House's baby on the other hand...
Sky: [edward gorey] N is for Nevilleskyblue_reverie on November 30th, 2006 01:54 am (UTC)
Haha! Yes, that line was rather melodramatic, which gives me some hope that it was planned ahead of time.

Hee, House vs. Therapist would indeed be interesting. House vs. Physical Therapist was pretty cool in one of the last few eps, so who knows. But, but, I love my drug addicted House! *whines* I don't really want him to work through his problems. Obviously if he were a RL person, that'd be different, but he's not, and all his fucked-upness is what makes him a compelling character.

The lupus thing was funny. :)

I hope that any baby would get less screentime, but as I said above, generally when a tv character becomes a mom, the writers change her, and start making her all "soft" and "emotional" and "realizing the important things in life" - i.e. family not work. *vomit* And the dynamic between the cast works so well partly because Cuddy is SUCH a kick-ass, powerful woman. I would really hate for them to mess with that. And just like I had a feeling that caneless House would be a disaster, I have a feeling that mommy!Cuddy would be a disaster. But we'll see. And ick ick ick NO WAY IN HELL on her having House's baby. Or Wilson's. That truly would be the kiss of death. Icky icky icky.
Fluffy: too stoned to tellflufshepherd on November 29th, 2006 08:17 pm (UTC)
Wasn't my favorite episode ever, but it wasn't bad. It was necessary for the plot to move forward, but I don't think it's an episode I'll be re-watching very many times.

Wilson did what he did because it was something that had to be done. Not only because the Tritter arc needs to go away *now*, but because House was really getting out of control and Wilson was the only one who could get away with it.

I did enjoy the PotW story. And I *loved* that it was Chase who got it. A very nice and much needed change.

And since you said we could go a few episodes back:

Last week's episode: good, but way too sad for me to re-watch until this whole Tritter business is resolved.

Son of Coma Guy: Definitely favorite episode of the season. Series? It's up there.

How about you, m'dear? What are your Housey thoughts?
Sky: [house] house wilson facesskyblue_reverie on November 29th, 2006 09:01 pm (UTC)
I agree - it was a good filler ep, but not a standout, I think. Like you, I doubt I'll rewatch many times.

I was also happy to see Chase finally get one right. Although he should give up on the sweater-vest look - dressing like Wilson isn't going to lure House away from him to you instead, Chase!

I agree that Wilson had to do *something* and he's the only one who could, but I don't think that going to Tritter was the way to do it. I'm still clinging to my hope that House and Wilson cooked this up to get Tritter off their backs, and that it wasn't a real betrayal. 'Cause otherwise, I am pissed at Wilson.

Last week: Agreed on good but sad. Was the POTW the kid from Almost Famous? The Wilson stuff was so upsetting!

Son of Coma Guy: Agreed, it was fabulous. In terms of favorites of the series, I usually need some distance before I can figure out which are going to be my favorites.

What were your favorite lines of the ep? I loved Foreman saying something about drawing straws to see who had to go buy House some illegal drugs. I don't remember the exact wording, but I remember it was funny. There were a lot of witty lines, I thought.
Fluffy: buying mudflufshepherd on November 30th, 2006 01:26 am (UTC)
All the characters have been wearing sweater-vests more often, I think. Well, at least Foreman, Wilson, and Chase. The show probably got some donation from the big Sweater-'n'-Vest Company. That explains it all.

I don't think House and Wilson were working together on this, but I don't view it as a betrayal at all. I think this is Wilson saving House in the only way he thinks he can. If it were a betrayal, I think Wilson would have done it much earlier than now.

Yes, POTW from WaM was from Almost Famous. And, YES, the Wilson stuff was upsetting! That's why I can never re-watch that episode until it's all resolved and I know that it ends with House and Wilson going to bed together and living happily ever after.

I need distance, too, before claiming Son of Coma Guy was my all-out favorite of the series, but I can tell already that it was up there. That is one episode that I know I can re-watch and re-watch and re-watch and... yeah. :-D

I can't remember at all what my favorite lines were. I'm sure there were a few witty lines because I remember chuckling a bit, but I can't for the life of me remember any of them.
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Sky: [hugh] hugh eyesskyblue_reverie on November 30th, 2006 01:48 am (UTC)
Yet again, total WORD to all this. Going to Tritter is NOT the way to handle House's problems, because of his issues with authority, just for one reason. Wilson definitely should have tried other things first, both direct and indirect. And yeah, if everyone stonewalls Tritter, there's not a lot he'd be able to do, other than continue to screw up their lives until one of his superiors finally asked WTF he thought he was doing, using departmental resources like that on one doctor who maybe had a pill problem.

I totally agree with you on House's sensitivity and his need for his confidence. Screwing with those things will only mess him up further and endanger his patients even more.

I am still holding out hope that the going to Tritter thing was a plot worked out between House and Wilson to get rid of Tritter somehow. Because if not... I'm going to be seriously pissed. Either way, I hope this arc is over soon because I'm getting really tired of it.
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Sky: [stephen] wtfskyblue_reverie on November 30th, 2006 01:27 am (UTC)
They totally should - and Wilson goes to his divorce lawyer for advice? WTF?! And that lawyer tells him flat out that it's not his area of expertise and then goes on to give him advice anyway. How about a referral to an actual lawyer with expertise in the area, Mr. Divorce Lawyer? And how come House has not put in a phone call to Stacy? Or Wilson for that matter. Or even Cuddy. One of them would have! And the hospital has lawyers too - if House and Wilson are under investigation for prescription drug-related issues, the hospital would certainly have an interest in that! So yes, you're right, it's a stupid plot device. Much like the total lack of lawyers in the POTW plot as well. And giving Cuddy control of the kid, which would never happen. Grrr.
Sky: [house] house wilson facesskyblue_reverie on November 30th, 2006 01:41 am (UTC)
Total WORD on all the Cuddy stuff. Even apart from my hatred of the baby plot because I just instinctively hate all baby plots on tv shows (babies just drag down shows, they aren't very interesting as a plot device and the writers almost always start dumbing down the mom character and making her all "soft" and realizing "the important things in life", which really pisses me off), I also think that Cuddy's baby is the hospital. She loves that place, and feels so protective about it, and as you say, she puts that as her priority over everything else. Why is it that every show writer seems to feel the need to make their female characters "of a certain age" have a wildly out-of-control biological clock and desire for motherhood? Not every woman wants to be a mom! Not every woman is cut out to be a mom! I really hope that this is the end of that stupid arc and that Cuddy decides she doesn't really want or need kids. (If it were RL and she really wanted kids, it'd be different, but this is a tv show, and that's not a direction I want to see her character go in. Can't they be different for once and have a female character who makes a conscious decision NOT to have kids?!)

I also agree that House was being an asshole, but if not for the whole Tritter mess, it wouldn't seem that different, except for missing the diagnosis and having it solved by Chase instead. And that was because he didn't get his Vicodin - if someone would have given him his damn pills, he would have been fine.

One of my favorite parts was where Cuddy was whining and crying about how House had been rude to her, but he'd never been mean to her, and Wilson just looked at her and said "Seriously?" in this really incredulous tone of voice. It was great! Cuddy was feeling all put upon and victimized, but Wilson puts up with that shit all the time. I think that House has gone for the jugular with Wilson many times before. But I liked that moment because it showed how much closer the House/Wilson relationship is than the House/Cuddy one, that he'd never been upset by Cuddy enough to draw blood. Also, I liked Wilson's calm responses to Cuddy's hysteria about "I'm a failure!" - Cuddy was obviously WAY overreacting and I thought Wilson handled it nicely. I didn't really like that scene from the perspective of Cuddy's character, because it felt OOC to me for her, but I liked Wilson's handling of it a lot.
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Sky: [house] wilson initialsskyblue_reverie on November 30th, 2006 01:24 am (UTC)
Ha! You know, I never even thought about the Tritter-in-the-basement thing until you said that, but you're totally right! The only way he should be down there cruising through records is if he has a subpoena or warrant, and the only way he should have that is if he's on duty, not on vacation.

I agree - nefarious plan all the way! *clings to happy denial*